Capital ignition point after Not only was it a fantastic revisit of the Flashpoint Universe, but as the six-issue series unfolds, it reveals itself even more as a deeper mystery is revealed in the Thomas Wayne/Flashpoint Batman universe as the Clockwork Killer targets time travelers all while Thomas tries to figure out why Thomas is back. This is the exact schedule. It’s fun timing for this comeback, just in time Dark Crisis on Infinite Earthsmaking for an even bigger mystery for DC fans.
newly, ignition point after #4 Throws a big curve ball to readers with the revelation that Martha Wayne, aka the Joker Flashpoint, is not dead and is in fact the mysterious Clockwork killer who plays a much bigger role. ignition point after Heading to its final issues. In an interview with ComicBook.comseries writers Jeremy Adams, Jeff Jones, and Tim Sheridan talk about how Martha uncovered upsetting things on the way to ignition point after #5, but more than that, the deep human and emotional story and the larger connections with the DC Universe are told.
Nicole Drum, ComicBook.com: There are two problems left ignition point after. They blew things up this crazy way. How bananas will get into the fifth number?
Jeff Jones: very crazy. I think the three of us separately are a bit of a nut. So we’re really together… I have to say, it’s through the process. I think my favorite thing about where the story is going, especially since I open my five doors here. Just look at it again. And it’s all the things that we talked about early on like what the story really is, what it really explores, what is the truth behind all the mysteries with Bruce Wayne and what is his role in this. What is Martha’s role with Thomas and what Thomas will face. The fourth problem is the first time we actually go through that door, but we don’t get past it to the end. So the fifth and sixth numbers are all that.
That’s all Tim, Jeremy and I were talking about in the early days. What’s this story? Why is she a Bruce Wayne character? How will you challenge Thomas Wayne? And what are we trying to say about grief and loss, both of which are batman? So, it’s really exciting to be here, actually. I look at Five, “I can’t wait for five to come out.” Five has a lot of things in it. It’s actually crazy.
Tim Sheridan: It’s interesting because the title of the four is “The Other Side of the Wall” and that finally comes into play. But then Five is really sitting on the other side of the wall. It’s kind of all of those threads and all of those things that we’ve talked about and kind of seeing them all live together, side by side. It will be exciting. I suspect.
Jeremy Adams: it is exciting. I think what you guys said about grief and loss, it’s also how it affects other things in the DC universe or what that means outside of this book is interesting as well. And one of the things that I love about this just as a fan and as a reader, is that it has the rhythm and cadence of a story that I really like where there’s some movement, but it’s kind of slow-burning. By the end of the four years, it looks like that fuse has caught on. And by five, it’s like, oh, my God, it’s starting to accelerate, faster, faster, more urgent. And I think we put all these pieces in place early on with the war between the Amazons and the Atlanteans and the Kryptonians. And the whole thing came to a head, even if it was just about Thomas and what he needed to do.
Jones: I’d just say to DC fans, problem four like Tim said, it’s walking through the doorway to the other side of the wall and it’s literally and figuratively so, because we get more into Bruce Wayne’s story in issue five and the other side of the story and start exploring that. And we touched on it a bit as we go through the first four numbers, but the fifth issue, begins to take over some storytelling as we cut it between the Bruce and Thomas stories.
Sheridan: I think if you’re excited, and as you start anticipating what’s going on with Bruce, I think problem five is going to be something to get into. Like Jeff said, it’s really about getting all those pieces together.
One of the things you guys touched on is the sadness and shock of it all. But the thing that struck me about this is, like a lot of superhero stories they live in grief and shock. But there is also a lot of hope here that I didn’t expect. I didn’t expect it to come from Thomas. He showed me why, in a real way, he’s a somewhat optimistic person.
Jones: Well, I guess if you didn’t have a lot of optimism or hope, I don’t think you’d be as active as Bruce or Thomas. the correct. Even in the darkness of Batman, the reason he does this is because it helps achieve a better outcome for others. This is why he does it. Otherwise … without hope, without some, I don’t know.
It’s kind of an oversimplification, I guess, when you talk about superheroes a lot of the time or DC comics, but one of the reasons I think people gravitate towards the DC world of comics, and I certainly have, is because the characters have that Hope and optimism are an inspiration. And I think even when we’re experiencing grief, and I think that’s something Tim pointed out, even when we’re experiencing grief whether it’s Barry Allen or Thomas Wayne, or us as people, or Bruce, there’s a way to process it and get to the other side, although it’s really hard. The real truth is that as human beings we have no other choice but to process grief and include it and get to the other side and try to take what we can, that can be a good deal of grief.
And it’s okay to find something good in grief because that is the reality. It’s like everyone would prefer to go back in time and change things up, but we can’t, right? So, we have to face it and we have to move on, and we have to do it, I think it takes really a lot to say, “Well, how do we deal with this terrible thing that happened or this loss that we got and we found something good from it?” Because you feel guilty because you You found something good to get out of it, right? You feel like you should always be in so much pain because of this thing that happened. The truth is we shouldn’t do it, we should process it at the time we need it, but in the end we find hope and the good thing that will come of it, even if it’s the smallest of things, but I think it’s the best anyone can do with grief and loss.
Sheridan: yes. Bypass it, right? And Nicole, I’d love to talk to you about this stuff. That’s pretty cool because it’s like everything Jeff said. Yes, obviously we all love to talk about the things in the room, but this is necessary for that. There is the idea that we can destroy our grief or trauma, and we can take it out of our lives and correct it. But another way is to learn to live with it and learn to move on.
Jones: yes. I think Tim pointed it out to me early on, we were talking about it. You said the original ignition point was all about that. I’m like, you’re right. she was. I didn’t know how conscious I was. I was conscious enough, but I wasn’t conscious. This is another step further than that. Processing grief, rather than just rushing past it or forgetting it, or just trying to change everything, is to integrate, face it, and learn, so what do we gain from it? And try to be okay with that. It is difficult to do so. It’s really hard to do that. to anyone who encountered it.
Sheridan: Well, you have two characters like Thomas and Bruce who have both, and they both have this trauma and grief, and two sides of that wall. Getting to explore what we’re talking about with these characters was incredible, wasn’t it?
Adams: yes. I especially think Thomas, having gone through Flashpoint originally and hoping for a better tomorrow for his dead child is a huge motivator. And to wake up in this universe again and to know already that he has changed him before, seeing his son and son is this amazing man. And I feel like this is bigger… One of the things that drove him in this series originally was the fact that he knows it’s true, and this shouldn’t happen. And so, he wants to redo it. That’s the hope he has, it’s this true dark hope, at first, because there’s nothing important but I’m going to change this again. Which is almost heroic. If you know the world must be better and I’m helping to fix it, but now I’m back in this hell, that’s the thing we’re really playing with and getting to a point where, like I said, what are you going to do with this grief? Would you go back and try to change it again? What are you doing? I think these are the questions we will answer.
Sheridan: And we could write a really fun play between two characters that talk about this very thing, but we’re talking about Omniverse and Hypertime and a huge cast of characters that are affected by trauma, sadness and other things, joy and wonder in all sorts of different ways. Thus, it is not only about shock and sadness. I mean, that’s the fun of playing with these games. There is also a great opportunity to have great fun.
This is really a much bigger thing and you layered on a lot of different things. What should people prepare for as we head into the five?
Jones: I think how this connects to the center console in a much bigger way for Batman and Bruce Wayne and the flash point mystery after him, why it was created, and what the risks are. One of my favorite scenes is between one of the Time Masters and one of the JSA members in the lead, and it’s a really fun scene that conceptually introduces the connection between Dark Crisis and Flashpoint Beyond, I think, in a really fun way.
Adams: When you’ve been talking about scope, one of the things that just me, and all credit to Jeff, me and Tim, has always been marveling at the depth of DC’s knowledge that you’ve pulled into some of the things that give us such a big storyboard to tell. And so, as we drive to the five, for me, that’s like I said, this cadence, rising almost to a frantic pace. So, eventually, you’re going to scroll through those pages because you’re going to want to see how these end, what does this mean? What does this mean going forward? And honestly, it’s one of those things, even if it’s something you ate right away, or is it something you ate later? What kind of cool thing ignition point after is how many years ago flash point And being able to capture the story here is kind of cool. And I think that provides a lot of tidbits for DC Universe going forward
Jones: I agree. I think the fifth issue in particular is that it kind of takes a look at all of the big universe which includes the events in DC and actually shows you it kind of works in both Omniverse and Hypertime. And if you look at all of them, you can see which one works in what. And Omniverse, everyone is familiar with this huge stuff. And in Hypertime, some happen and no one knows because it’s all about rewriting time, right? So, it feels like times are changing. Ultimately, only the people who have been involved in it realize that, in the Omniverse, it could be much bigger and more outlandish in the public eye. So, there is something wonderful and mysterious about Hypertime Stories. And when you see that, I think people will look back at all of these DC events since the first crisis and see that they kind of play out in those two areas. And what that means for the future, I think, is really exciting.
Sheridan: Also get ready to spend more time with Batman and the Joker. You probably got that from the end of the four.
ignition point after #5, written by Jeff Jones, Tim Sheridan, and Jeremy Adams with art by Xermanico and Mikel Janin, on sale September 6.
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